Monday, November 14, 2005

Statistics

I got this e-mail. From my dad. I won't copy it word for word, on the core of it . . .

Theres been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theater of operations during the past...22 months. There has been a total of 2,112 deaths-that gives us a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000.

Now consider this: The firearm death rate in Washington DC is 80.6 per 100,000. You are 25% more likely to be shot and killed in D.C. (one of the more strict cities in terms of gun control) than you are in Iraq.

Now, I have considered this. I have concluded thus: We should immediately pull out of Washington D.C.

10 comments:

toni said...

Thats crazy.
My sister got stuck in D.C. at like 2 am when she went to see a Coheed show.
She is really paranoid and was afraid she would get shot.
The stupid police didn't help her either.
I think she hates the coppers now.

Brian said...

DC is a really dangerous place. we had a hockey game is south dc and on the way to the rink we saw this guy get shot. We then drove really fast to the rink, it was kinda scary.

JohnC said...

No Colin, you're taking those numbers out of context. First, you're using the number of soldiers killed in Iraq, not including civilians. How many soldiers are killed in DC every month? Now, if you want to count the total number of deaths by firearms/carbombs/other violent means, then you'd have to add in around 28,000 (probably much higher) additional civilian deaths in Iraq. (doesn't include troops or contractors from other countries outside of iraq)

I'm not saying that we should pull out of Iraq, because we shouldn't yet.

jake said...

yeah dc is crazy, when u go to RFK stadium and a sign so please don't buy drugs...thats not good...and john is correct colin, u are only taking into account american soldiers in Iraq...compare the number of people who die in iraq total to that of dc (in percentages like u did) and u will see that iraq is much higher, an again i agree with john, we shouldn't pull out...even thought this post is completely contradictory

JohnC said...

No, Kevin, he said "troops," not "Americans," (although he obviously meant "American troops") Americans who are not in the military have died in Iraq. And yes, we do have control over the non-Americans that die in Iraq, we can't pull them out of the country like we can our troops, but we are still responsible, and in any case those numbers are highly relevant to this topic.

JohnC said...

By the way, Colin, your statistics are all wrong. That homicide rate for DC is per YEAR, not month, AND that data is 14 years old. Since then the homicide rate has gone way down, it's now less than half of what it was then. (the 80.6 figure and a mention of the "strict" gun control laws can be found in Wikipedia, I'm guessing that's the only place whoever wrote this email briefly looked)

So, using the correct numbers, the current homicide rate for DC is about 37 per 100,000 per year. For our soldiers in Iraq, its about 720 per 100,000 per year. That means that one of our soldiers in Iraq is nearly 20 times as likely to die as someone in DC.

jake said...

i agree with john

Colin. said...

John, John, John. See, you obviously do not have inside contacts, as I do. They want you to think everything you do. Shame on you, being brainwashed so easily.

And John, it is a joke. A joke to poke fun at all those condemning the war because of the deaths over in Iraq. 16 deaths in Iraq is significant, yet 200 in America isn't?

Kevin said...

John, Jake agrees with you. I think this argument is obviously settled. Colin and I win.

JohnC said...

No, I won, that data is wrong, mine is right. (or at least a lot more accurate than Colin's)

Colin, I don't know what inside contacts you have, who "they" are, or what you mean by me being brainwashed, but you're wrong. It appears that you've been brainwashed by the people making up these erroneous figures in an attempt to spin the situation in Iraq. (you too, Kevin) I see that its supposed to be a joke, but the problem is that only those who supported the war and can't be bothered with those annoying facts would find it funny. The entire joke is based on false information.

Jake might be wrong from time to time...
But don't forget: I always win.