Thursday, March 27, 2008

What's Up With These Inmates?

If you thought "Thriller" was bad..



What kind of punishment is this? They have crowds cheering and everything. But maybe it's a low security prison for white-collar crimes or something.
-Eric

10 comments:

toni said...

thats incredibly awesome.

Kevin said...

i actually DIDNT think thriller was bad. i love thriller.

those people look like kids anyways. id say its a juvenile prison, and the announcer sounded foreign, so id say its not in america.

Eric said...

It's in the Philippines!

And I didn't think Thriller was bad either, but I do think all this choreography coming from these inmates is getting a little rigoddamndiculous. Awesome though it may be, dancing around in front of adoring fans doesn't really seem like much of a punishment to me.

But it's probably more complicated than that-- more than likely participation is a reward for good behavior or the like. I don't know how well it'd work in the US-- any thoughts?

Thanxforthevenom said...

The purpose of jail ins't always punishment eric. Its actually a place to try and reform people. In this prison its probably working seeing as everybody is using teamwork to "get the job done" as well as have fun. The more light-hearted you make things the more relaxed people get.

Eric said...

While I agree with you that this sort of activity does calm prisoners down, and may reduce the risk of riots/shanking/etc, sentencing someone to prison time is always intended as a punishment-- you're locking someone away and taking away their freedoms, it can't be construed as anything but punishment.

That being said, prisons should (and sometimes do) offer rehabilitation to inmates so that when they leave, they can function in the outside world, and this may be a part of that process.

Thanxforthevenom said...

Is always intended as a punishment? So when a mentally insane person goes to a psych ward where they take away freedoms its definitley a punishment. Jails were originally created as a form of punishment but starting in the 1800s jails were called "Correctional Facilities" and the Department of Corrections was formed to help rehabilitate these people. That is why some inmates get out of their sentence early for good behavior....because they have been "corrected".

Colin. said...

Really, guys? Both Eric and Tyler are right--you definitely get assigned to jail time as a punishment, but also in hopes that they can 'correct' you. So.

Also, I'd heard about this before. As one who proudly hates 'Thriller,' I think this was actually just a fun thing the inmates all but elected to do, pending warren approval--which they got. It wasn't a reward, and it didn't garnish a reward--it was just a fun thing they did with their families looking on.

JohnC said...

Also, the prison is probably making some money off of these dance routines.

Prison is about punishing people by taking away their freedom, once they're in, why punish them more? And that hardly seems like a reward, I'd hate it if they made me dance like that. Besides, when they're not dancing they're probably going back to shanking and prison sodomy.

If you want to see a "nice" prison check out these places:
5 Star Prison in Austria

And this one: crazy
Prison in Norway

Same prison as above, but with commentary by everyone's favorite crazy liberal, doesn't start until about 4 minutes in

Eric said...

Tyler: Yes. Although they do attempt to recondition the inmates so they can function within the bounds of social acceptable behavior when they leave, it is intended as a punishment. (Hence the judge/jury/trial process. And the bars.)

Colin: Being allowed to do "a fun thing...with their families looking on" (and through YouTube, the world) is a reward in itself to the inmates. It's a break from the usual dreary activities of prison life, and is something they at least seem to enjoy.

John: Those prisons are ridiculous. If a man killed my two family members and then dismembered them with a chainsaw, I would not want him to be allowed those sorts of freedom. I would want him punished-- in my opinion, prison should be a punishment for crimes committed first, and a place for therapy/remediation second.

Kevin said...

I agree with Tyler that the purpose of modern imprisonment is to reform, not punish. Obviously, punishment is a part of it, but the focus now is on reformation.

And I only looked at the pictures from that first prison, the one in Austria. But actually I thought it was a really good idea. I mean, most of the people in prison aren't there because they got tired of their white-collar jobs and decided to kill their wives. Most of them grew up impoverished; giving them a sample of a life they've never had, while still restricting their freedoms (so it is still a punishment), seems like a good way of motivating them to actually work for that type of life once they return to society.

It's worth a shot, at least.